Version 1: Expected value
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- The probability-weighted average of an action’s possible results. It is the standard way to compare a sure thing with a long shot, and it misleads when the probabilities are guesses.
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The **expected value** of an action is what you get if you multiply each possible result by its probability and add them up. A program that has a 10 percent chance of helping 10,000 people has an expected value of helping 1,000 people, the same as a program certain to help 1,000. Expected value lets a giver compare a sure thing with a long shot on one scale. ## Why it matters for giving Much of the most ambitious work in charity is a long shot: research that may find nothing, advocacy that may lose, a campaign to change a norm that may take decades or fail. Without some way to weigh probability against size, a giver can only choose between “certain” and “hopeful.” Expected value turns that into a question with numbers in it. ## Three cautions **The inputs are often guesses.** Holden Karnofsky of GiveWell argued in 2011 that an explicit expected-value estimate, built from many rough inputs, should not be taken literally even when its errors are not biased in either direction. It should be combined with a prior view of what similar actions usually achieve. The less certain the estimate, the more it should be pulled toward that prior, so a dramatic but weakly supported claim counts for little. **Tiny chances of huge stakes can take over.** If a result is large enough, even a very small probability can dominate the sum. Philosophers call the extreme version of this *fanaticism*, and MacAskill, Bykvist and Ord treat it as a central problem for anyone deciding under [moral uncertainty](/record/encyclopedia/moral-uncertainty/). The philosopher Amia Srinivasan has argued that expected-value reasoning about speculative risks can end up justifying whatever its users already favored. **It ignores attitudes to risk.** Maximizing expected value treats a sure good and a gamble with the same average as equal. 80,000 Hours calls ignoring risk aversion a reasonable approximation for its own purposes. Many givers reasonably prefer some certainty. A portfolio can hold both. ## Getting the probabilities right Expected value is only as good as its probabilities. Forecasters can be scored, for example with a [Brier score](/record/lexicon/#brier-score), and a forecaster whose 70 percent predictions come true about 70 percent of the time is [calibrated](/record/lexicon/#calibration). Charitology’s [Forecasting Platform](/tools/forecasting-platform/) and [Forecasting Tournaments](/programs/forecasting-tournaments/) are meant to make the probabilities in giving decisions testable.
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- Why we can’t take expected value estimates literally (even when they’re unbiased) · Holden Karnofsky, The GiveWell Blog · 2011
- Moral Uncertainty · William MacAskill, Krister Bykvist and Toby Ord, Oxford University Press · 2020
- Stop the Robot Apocalypse: The New Utilitarians · Amia Srinivasan, London Review of Books 37(18) · 2015
- A framework for comparing global problems in terms of expected impact · Robert Wiblin, 80,000 Hours · 2016
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